Newsletter Editor: Rob Taylor

There are Rules and more Rules . . .
So . as the cold weather spreads its icy grip across our fair land, the Hon Sec to the governing committee has asked us all to bear in mind a few of the senior’s rules pertinent to this season.

• If there are 4 or more temporary greens in play on a Friday game, the competition will automatically be cancelled. Of course you can still play, but any scores carded will not count towards the League table.
• There must be at least 9 holes open to qualify as a competition and
• There must be a minimum of 9 players who submit cards.

Unlikely item 2 or 3 will apply, but just in case . . . . . we have been told.

On the bright side –  even on temporary greens , “2”s still count!

Now . . . . a strange tale . . .

This past Friday, Paul Collins was remarking to his playing partners  as they strolled up the 6^th fairway . . . “do you know, I have never seen a ship on this canal”.

He settled into his third shot but suddenly had that creepy feeling up his spine (no not his truss slipping – the ghoulish creepy one) . He dashed the swing, with the inevitable duffed shot.

A scene straight  out of the Panto Season was captured – “Look behind you” the audience cried – “ Widow Twankey, Look behind you”. ( keep up , we are working with thin material here you know)

But blow us all down! – he then had the temerity to complain over the next few holes that his nerves were shattered following the horrible experience of being “ crept up on” by a LARGE ship.

Hence a mediocre score this outing. Any port in a storm , hey Paul!

Round 5 – Autumn Session  Friday 24 November 2023

It seems unbelievable.

In JEST  , the gauntlet was thrown down last week – “try to beat Big Ken’s  record of a 4 ½ shot deduction”. Honestly – we did not think anyone in his right mind would actually try but . . . . enter our hero for this edition – Colin Crail.

Read on:

We always start with the weather – and blow us down! It was brilliant – a bit cool, but plenty of sunshine. A “No–Excuse”  type of outing.

Dancing around the course like leaves blowing in the gentle zephyr ,  49 players . Spookily – nearly  the same as the week before.

Now – the all- important statistics you all enjoy:

• 33 from Div 1 and 16 from Div 2.

• 9 played below their handicap,( as for last week – will they never learn?)
   
• 22 played in the ‘zone’ which is between 25pts and 30pts where their handicap is not affected.
   
• 18 played over their handicap ( juicy shots back) .
   
• Two managed a “2” this week – Bob Mycock and Andrew Cox – (2 nicer men you could ever wish to meet. This is a paid for advert)

OK, so now comes the good bits ( as long as your name isn’t Colin of course)

Division 1 Results

Winner – Colin Crail with 38 points. A mind boggling 5 points clear of the rest of the entire field. Not quite up with BK but a few days to contemplate what it will be like tee-ing off on Friday some 4 shots down on where he was a mere 7 days before!  

Second place – Bob  Mycock with 33 points . Card play off .

Third  place – Andrew Cox again 33 points. Card playoff.

Mike Bennett  also scored 33pts. Lost on the card playoff though so doesn’t get an official  mention– but he still gets his handicap – chopped. Hey-ho, hey-ho , it’s off to work we go . . . loving it!

Division 2 Results

 Now – much better- Not too much to get the handicap secretary excited about.

Winner – Phil Perry with a  34 points. Including  X “4 pointers”.

Second place – Colin Lees with 31 points – 2 X 4 pointers

Third place – Dave Craggs with 30 points ( sensible chap)

But of course – only 5 rounds gone.  . . . 3 more chances to shine still to come.

Where are we in the league?  John Armstrong extends his lead division 1 over Michael John, and Phil Ormesher is still leader in division 2, followed by Dave Craggs.

Please don’t forget to check your handicap on the list – on the notice board and on our lgcseniors.com website. Still too many not playing off the correct handicap.

Now – what do members get up to . . . ?

It started as a hobby, but a Warrington man is now using his jam- making talent to fundraise for a cancer charity after being diagnosed with the disease earlier this year.

Alister Cook moved into a new house in Higher Whitley which hosts a variety of fruit trees and bushes in the garden.

Not wanting to see the produce go to waste, Alister started making jams and chutneys. This was using a range of fruits and vegetables – from damsons, apples, rhubarb, raspberries and blueberries to chillis, peppers and tomatoes.

Then the idea – why not sell the produce for the charity? Which is where we are with the project today.

Alister’s fundraising page can be found at: www.justgiving.com/page/alister-cook-1698356771782.

Alister also  intends to compile the book to compliment the project , “with all the proceeds going to Lymphoma Action.”

So now you know  . . . . . . what one of us does when he’s not playing golf.

HAPPY MONDAYS – 27^TH November

After much prompting, the report that follows was eventually winkled out of the organiser . . .

Sorry  – the weather was so dank and grey I decided to duck out on Monday – 

I don’t know if anybody else played in the Happy Mondays game. 

The quality of our reporters is the envy of the national tabloids. Honest! We get calls every day trying to poach our intrepid, lazy, layabouts.

Christmas Lunch

No stand-up-sit-down bingo this year. We’ve decided instead on a free raffle. Please feel free to donate a prize for the raffle. Perhaps a bottle of something? Dave Waggitt has already offered a few balls he found recently on the course: 2x Pinnacles, 1x Donnay, and an old Penfold.

Tee Booking for Tomorrow

Newsletter Editor – Rob Taylor

Clairvoyance – or just luck?

The spirits  speak to us . . . .

Now here’s a tale to send shivers down your spine – remember the conundrum offered up at the end of last week’s newsletter – a picture from our archives ? Dragged randomly from the Gallery.

“Is big Ken actually THINKING?”

Ok. Nothing unusual there –  the suggestions of what he might be doing rolled in over the week, but the REAL message from the misty past struck home on Friday. The results from round 4 finalised  and this echo  from the past wrote itself as a new headline . . . .

Yes. He was awake , and yes, he was thinking – BUT what he was ACTUALLY thinking was…….

“I wonder how it feels to be docked 4 ½ points  in one game?”

So read on and laugh and cheer and weep and slap your sides with mirth – Big Ken is enshrined into our Hall of Fame.

You have got to Love Senior’s handicapping – it’s a fountain that just keeps giving!!!

Autumn League round 4 : Friday 17^th November 2023

And the sun shone, and the wind abated, and the temperature rose and . . .there was certainly too much red wine supped the night before.

In truth – the weather did what it had for many a long time. C’mon! It’s Britain in the Autumn – what ARE you expecting!

The field shuffled round in the gloom.There were 50 players in total, 34 from Div 1 and 16 from Div 2. Now that’s a good turn-out in Autumn.

• 10 played below their handicap,( silly boys)
   
• 22 played in the ‘zone’ which is between 25pts and 30pts where their handicap is not affected.
   
• 18 played over their handicap.
   
• No one managed a 2 this week again.

The treasurer was seen to smile over this last statistic – unkind people said it was “wind”.  Having suffered at his hand as a late payer of a match fee before – I go with the “wind” theory.

OK, so now comes the good bits ( as long as your name isn’t Ken of course)

Division 2 Results

Winner        –         Ken Pearce with a MIND BOGGLING  39pts

R/up             –         Ron Thornton with 33pts

3^rd                –         Ken Narraway with 32pts

Division 1 Results

Winner        –         Bob Ellison with 35pts (not the same Bob who told this reporter not a few months ago “ Oh , I couldn’t hit a cow in the bum with a banjo –  my game has gone to pot” – surely not him?)

R/up             –         Grahame Brickell with 33pts on a card play-off.

3^rd                –         Steve Gosling also with 33pts.

Charlie Hill also scored 33pts. Charlie doesn’t get an official  mention though as he was fourth – but he still gets his handicap – chopped. Love this  reporting job – really do!

 And how are we going with the league?

• John Armstrong now leads division 1 ( need to recheck the figures here. John A – actually leading something?)  ,
• Phil Ormesher still the leader in division 2.( definitely need a recheck. Wolf in sheep’s clothing methinks)

But of course – only 4 rounds gone.  . . . 4 more to go.

 4 more opportunities to take Big Ken’s record away from him.

Come on guys ! Someone can shoot a reasonable 40 points surely????

And PLEASE . A couple, or even three  “Two’s” this week? Steve is looking far too happy – Make a young man happy. He thrives on misery and complaint.

Other options – The Big Ken  – “ was he THINKING?  Conundrum”.

Of course, while BK was limbering up for his assault on the handicap system, others were offering up their ideas on what was actually going on in the picture . . .

“ Early example of AI at work. In the original frame ( before doctoring) he was in his natural state . . .asleep”

Then there was one a bit punchier  . . . . . . .

“ I wonder if Les Fecitt is actually going to buy me a coffee today? . . .”

Then there was a page of prose:

“There is a very old “West Country” saying  . . . “Sometimes I sits, sometimes I thinks, but mostly I just sits”.

This study of “Art in Motion” (OK. Stretching the motion bit) was taken by a budding David Bailley in our  section (oh c’mon, surely you remember who he was – maybe he still is- not sure? Photographer to the rich and famous) 

Or perhaps reminiscent of Whistlers Mother? ( Mother? Now you are stretching it)

Or maybe Rodin’s “The Thinker”?( Thinker? No chance)

Or maybe “ Mohammed contemplating the Mountain”?

It just proves  . . . Art is – everywhere, if you take the time to look.”

There were others, all along these themes- over half a dozen replies in all via e-mail, WhatsApp and one shouted across the car park ! It’s a great comfort to know that you need two hands to count the number of our readership every week.

And who was the contributor of the “page of prose ?  Either a latent Shakespeare, perhaps a closet Dickens ? You’re probably right – an escaped lunatic actually – but does this not  make him a perfect candidate for taking a turn at the editing role???

Step forward that man – let your light shine out!

Happy Mondays – 20^th November 2023.

OK – the basic statistics. Yes , the crazy people are still turning out in their droves and yes – they did play on Monday.

No  Blizzard nor deluge will stop them.

 And what did they play? ( something really simple we hope?)  Yes! A Team Stableford.

Basics : Teams – 6 comprising 18 players . One would hope teams of 3? But who knows with the current management.

The winners ? Ken Pearce ( that fellow again – need an investigation) and Peter Willson ( the organiser no less) . 19.5 points – both went home with broad smiles and coins jingling (The committee has been advised of possible corruption at work here)

2nd – Mike Bennett, Colin Crail, Les Williams and Richard Yates – 19.3 points (CPO) ( Chairman is  this group with known bandits ? Infamy we cry)

Then they all tumbled in : The list  reads like the roll call at Warrington Prison. Charlie H, Tony, Phil P, Pete, Mark, Steve ,Eric (what? Eric Cox? Did you assay his gold coin?) Phil L ( getting near hibernation?) , Bob, Chissie, Dave C and Mr Thomas. Only a cigarette paper between them.

It just shows – anyone can play on a Monday – no matter what your criminal record smile looks like!

Oh – and a bit of gossip?  – One player booked himself in and then had a time related aberration and arrived in the car park only to find all and sundry had already departed up to the tenth. So – He  went home and decided to ( stupidly) attempt the “the queue at the Stockton Heath refuse tip”

Thereby turned a bad day into a really, really  awful day.

Another from the Archives . . . .

Remember, way back, when most of us were younger and some of you were not even seniors, we took a charabanc ( well no: actually, we all piled into Arthur’s passion wagon of the time) and took a day trip to the Senior’s open?

Well – there appeared in our next newsletter a lengthy report which had these sage words of advice on how to advance your game . . . . .

• Toss the grass up before the shot – very important to assess the wind direction (Bernard Langer was seen doing this often)
• Bending down on one knee when sighting a putt (groaning and knee cracking an added bonus)
• Wearing white and Brown two-tone shoes (obviously a senior 2019 fashion) and, occasionally do a funny walk. (quite a few seemed to have both legs down one trouser-leg at times)

The Report then went on:

For those contemplating trying out for the Tour, good news!

 It seems the catering for the players has improved immeasurably. Not many slim waistlines were seen on the course! (A bit like ours on a Friday?)It is proven: a second helping of pudding, helps to improve your game.

In the tradition of the day,  there was also a  . . . .

Newsflash– Tom Watson has announced that he is retiring from the professional circuit at the end of his round on Sunday 28^th.

On the down side; a name we have all grown up with and a gentleman player who is a joy to watch,  will no longer be out there – The up side? There is a vacancy on the Senior tour!

Sorry – it’s been a slow news week. Lazy reporters not sending in their copy. No-one forgetting to change into their  shoes and wandering out on the course in their slippers  – or any other antics.

Last Friday, the 6th hole looked particularly beautiful and inviting, with autumn hues under a pure blue sky. It inspired me to change the header photo. Here is the uncropped version:

Good news: we have a guest editor for the next couple of weeks: your old favourite: the inimitable Rob Taylor!

The Fallen Leaves – Senior’s Temporary Rule

Enough of this Jazzy song – well actually , enough of you all singing along! (call that singing?)

This is a really Important Notice about a new (temporary) Senior’s rule.

The seemingly never-ending fall of leaves coupled with the soggy conditions means that balls are being lost in the fairways with horrendous regularity (shock / horror you all cry) – which is slowing play to a painful pace. ( the pace only hurt a bit before the leaves started falling – now it’s really painful).

The committee has ruled that if you and your playing partners all agree that the ball was fairly struck and is “somewhere on the fairway , round about here” but it looks hopeless – leaves abound, and you are sinking into the mud and . . . . somebody has probably stood on the missing ball already – Well , don’t dilly – dally,

Throw down your trusty mat, place a fresh ball on it, and play on – NO PENALTY.

No need for all of you to tramp round in circles waving your arms about – move the game on. It’s hard enough negotiating the assault course without having to wait while the group ahead does a slow Morris dance searching endlessly for a lost “my-best-friend -my-golf-ball.”

OK – so this could be misinterpreted. It could be a spoofers paradise – but weigh it up. We need to keep the field moving – regular movement always adds to the enjoyment of everyone ( all those who have prunes for breakfast will bear testimony – “movement is good”)

If you bang one out of bounds or into the rough where tigers live – then take your medicine like a man – when in doubt, playing a provisional ball should always be the order of the day.

The leaves don’t care where they land, fairway or in the bush. Your chances of finding your family heirloom in the rough are somewhat limited. Take out provisional insurance – you know you should.

Autumn League round 3 of 8

The third round of the Autumn session proved to be a fine sunny day. Crisp, not too cool – just really fine. Though only 10 holes were open a fine days sport was had by all – (well nearly all – there’s always some-one who blobs the first three holes) .

Star result of the day was none other than Michael John who had seven three pointers in the ten holes. Remarkable! We always knew he would get it right one day – just needed to keep practicing.

This week’s really interesting statistics.

There were 52 cards returned in total. 34 from Div 1 and 18 from Div 2.Lots of big boys out in the field.

In the all-important handicap stakes . . ..

Everyone used their correct handicaps this week. Unbelievable – well done everyone.

11 played below their handicap ( Yippee! Fine chaps. But, Oh No! Handicaps unfortunately will go . . .DOWN)

27 played in the ‘zone’ which is between 25pts and 30pts ( Round of gentle handclapping – no change)

14 played over their handicap (OH NO! – but actually . . OH YES! Handicaps will go . . UP)

Just like the old days is this – the crowd sitting around the coffee tables baying for blood!

No one managed a “2” this week. Treasurer and Keeper -of-the-balls , Steve G is grinning like the Cheshire Cat

This week’s really interesting results.

Division 2 Results:
Winner Alistair Cook with a super 38pts.
Runner up Ken Narraway with 32pts on a cpo.
Third Paul Wright also with 32pts on a cpo.

Division 1 Results:
Winner Michael John another super 38pts.
Runner up John Armstrong with 36pts
Third Martin Franks with 35pts

We are only 3 games into this session, but Michael John now leads division 1, with Phil Ormesher a clear leader in division 2.

Still lots of golf to play – watch the results as they unfold every Wednesday.

Andy Ward – Winter Pairs Knockout

The “Results” sheet on the Club notice board for the Preliminary round of the Andy Ward Pairs Knockout shows that only 1 match has been played so far.

All prelim matches are scheduled to be completed by Thursday 30th November – 16 days hence!

We live in hope .

• Some of you will have arranged ( and will soon play) your matches?
• Some of you will have already played ( and not filled in the results?)
• Some of you . . .will have done . . .nothing?

Please – if you are in the last category – DO SOMETHING. We don’t want late withdrawals or have to revert to “coin tossing” to get an outcome.

It’s important to maintain the schedule. Without this discipline there won’t be enough time to complete the session!

And, in case you need a gentle reminder :

The Format and Rules:

Seniors handicaps, yellow tees, 4 ball better-ball match play , played over 18 holes or as many are available on the match day. And , at the end of your match, fill the result in on the Notice board please!

Any issues? The organiser this year is Peter Willson. Contact him!

Christmas Dinner – 8th December

The list has been up on the notice board for some weeks now and a healthy slice of the membership have jumped at the chance already.

Now this is terrific – what’s not to like? Xmas dinner, drinkie-winkies and a chance to relive all those old stories again ( it’s OK – most of us can’t remember the story you told us last year – change a few names and repeat it!) – and all for very few Great British Pounds( £15 – that’s all!)

One downside though. A few who put their names on the list . . .still . . . . have NOT PAID!

This makes our Treasurer, Steve, very unhappy and need I say a little unpredictable. He’s taken to carrying a large hammer in the boot of his car and mutters “ kneecaps” and “ broken legs” and other such threatening words.

If your name is down and you HAVE NOT paid yet – save the NHS. Save yourself some pain. Do it now.

If your name is not down ( where have you been – living under a rock?) get it down now and then immediately . . . . .follow the advice above. Internet banking – off to our Steve – for all our sakes.

The Thinker

Just paging through the old gallery which goes back over many years we chanced upon this rather odd photo.

Odd you ask? Why?

Well we all know who it is but – he appears to be THINKING!

Is this possible – he was actually thinking? Is that actually possible?

Why is a photo of big Ken ( possibly) thinking, in our archive?

Can anyone shed any light on this strange phenomenon?

Interesting. All replies gratefully received. I’ll bet someone out there knows.

Newsletter Editor: Rob Taylor

Christmas Party Reminder

Reporter: Steve Gosling

This year’s festivities are on Friday 8th December, meal at 2pm.

A sign-up sheet is on the notice board.

Currently we have 35 signed up…but only 10 paid !

Please pay the £15 into the Senior Account

Lymm Golf Over 60’s
60-20-29
50244779

Autumn League – Round 2 of 8

Reporter: Paul Foster

The second round of the Autumn session was played on a day where most members looked out of their bedroom window before play expecting the course to be closed, but it turned out a rather pleasant day. Little rain and no wind. Perfect for low scoring. I love days like today when 20 players had their handicap docked…marvellous…

One incorrect handicap used last week, but five incorrect handicaps used this week, you know who you are, please read the handicap page for your up to date handicap.

There were 46 players in total, 34 from Division 1 & 12 from Division 2, plus newcomer Brendon Laing completing his first of three cards for handicap purposes

20 played below their handicap (I’ve got them..!)
5 played to their handicap
21 played over their handicap

Four 2s were recorded, Steve Gosling on the 2^nd, Paul Foster on the 5^th, Martin Franks & Mark Marsland on the 9^th,

So to the all important results; A very close finish in the 1^st Division with

5 players scoring 35pts!

Division 2 Results

Winner         –         Stuart Baird with a remarkable 38pts
R/up            –         Jeff Ashurst with 35pts on a cpo
3^rd                –         Dave Craggs with 35pts on a cpo

Division 1 Results
Winner         –         Mike Bennett with 35pts on a cpo
R/up            –         Martin Franks with 35pts on a cpo
3^rd                –         Michael John with 35pts on a cpo
4^th                –         Barry McGuigan with 35pts on a cpo
5^th                –         John Higgins with 35pts on a cpo

Happy Mondays – 6 November

Reporter: Peter Willson

Game – Yellow Ball – best 3 scores to count from the team (one player drops out every hole in the four-man teams) 

7 teams entered – 23 players 

1st – Charlie Heath, Mark Pickles, Phil Lomas and Bob Mycock – 77 points 

2nd – Mike Bennett, Richard Yates and Colin Crail – 74 points 

3rd – Phil Perry, Tony Lambert, Steve Barlow and Dave Craggs – 71 points 

Weather: dry cloudy, light breeze and muddy – 10 deg C

Tee booking on Thursday evenings

Grahame Brickell has taken over responsibility for tee booking rotas, from David Craggs, since David was appointed Secretary.

Grahame says he prefers to rely on emailing the tee bookers directly rather than using the newsletter.

Check on the main Lymm Golf Club website for a reminder of your tee time this Friday, 10 November.

Autumn League – Round 1 of 8

Reporter: Paul Foster

The first round of the Autumn session brought a fine, clear day with sunny spells, only 12 holes were open due to recent wet weather, which brought the need for the use of the dreaded mats. Steve ‘the actor’ Barlow showed off his brand new badminton court sized mat to all on the car park, much to the amusement of his fellow players, needless to say by the 4^th hole “it was going in the bin”..!! Steve managed to kick it further than he hit the ball on the 10^th fairway. A replacement normal sized mat was ordered on line as soon as we got back to the clubhouse…

After the recent major shake-up of handicaps, there was only 1 incorrect handicap used, well done all for checking up on the new handicap list.

There were 42 players in total, 27 from Division 1 & 15 from Division 2

11 played below their handicap
6 played to their handicap
25 played over their handicap

Two 2s were recorded, Andrew Cox & Paul Foster both on hole 2

So to the all important results.

Division 2 Results

Winner         –         Phil Ormesher with 36pts
R/up            –         Tony Lambert with 34pts
3^rd                –         Ron Thornton with 29pts

Division 1 Results

Winner         –        Paul Foster with 34pts on a cpo (15pts on back 6)
R/up            –         Peter Willson with 34pts on a cpo (13pts on back 6)
3^rd                –         Paddy Moran with 33pts

15 players have had handicap changes so please look at the new handicap list to see if it affects you.

To see your position in the league, see the Leader Boards page.

Happy Mondays

Reporter: Peter Willson

Rain, rain, more rain and throw some mud in for good luck.

Game: Shambles – highest and lowest score to count from 3 man team (teams of 4 to determine before the competition the rotational order for one player to drop out).

1st – Mark Pickles, Paddy Moran, Paul Foster and Mike Pigott – 44 points 

2nd – Tommy Lawless, Steve Barlow and Charlie Hill – 42 points 

3rd – Eric Cox, Richard Yates, Les Williams and Mike Bennett – 41 points 

4th – Tony Lambert, Charlie Heath and Steve Gosling – 37 points

5th – Phil Lomas, Dave Craggs and Peter Willson – 33 points 

6th – Colin Chisnall and Alan Thomas – 32 points 

Llangollen 6/6/2024. Final Call

Reporter: Grahame Brickell

16 seniors have currently expressed an interest to play in this Seniors Open and what has been in the past a very enjoyable seniors day out.

Any final takers? If so please message Grahame B through the IG messaging system.

Autumn League begins on Friday

Our Autumn league (5 from 8) begins this Friday, 27 October.

We will use our revised handicaps for the competition, published by Paul Foster (see below), and the new system for adjusting handicaps as the league progresses.

The committee has decided that, in line with the ‘social golf’ recommendation of Lymm Golf Club, we can use mats everywhere on the course, not just on fairways. Therefore you can use mats everywhere in the league, and also in your doubles-knockout matches.

Christmas Lunch – 8 December

The Seniors’ Christmas lunch will be on 8th December, food served at 14:00.

Cost £15.00. Please add your name to the list on the Seniors’ noticeboard, and pay into the main Seniors’ bank account:

Lymm Golf Over 60’s
Nat West Bank
60-20-29
50244779

Andy Ward Trophy (Doubles Knockout)

Peter Willson has done the draw for the knockout. He will put the sheet on the Seniors’ noticeboard. When you have played your match, write the name of the winning pair on the sheet.

You can see the draw for the preliminary round and round 1 on the attached spreadsheet:

Handicaps – Rules

Reporter: Paul Foster

The following handicap rules will apply to the Lymm Golf Club gents seniors section.

On a 15 hole basis

Marked cards to be handed in following every Friday competition round, and for any 18 hole seniors section competition.

First 15 holes only to count towards their seniors handicap.

After a score of 31pts or above:
0.5 of a stroke deducted from handicap for each point greater than 30pts

After a score of 25 to 30pts:
No handicap adjustment.

After a score of 20 to 24pts:
A single addition of 0.5 of a stroke to be added to the handicap

After a score under 20pts:

0.5 of a stroke added to the handicap for each point less than 20pts

Handicaps that include 0.5 are rounded up to the next whole number.

I will adjust the handicaps every week. A list will be placed on the Seniors’ noticeboard, and on the ‘Handicaps’ tab of this web site.

See below the starting handicaps for the Autumn league:

Handicaps – Notes

Reporter: Paul Foster

Seniors Golf is meant to be fun, where the reward is the company/banter of fellow senior members rather than actual prizes, so avoidance of ‘banditry’ is to be maximised and any ‘protection of handicap’ is to be minimised

We are to reset seniors section members handicaps to their WHS playing handicap (95% of course handicap) ready for the start of the Autumn session. With a few exceptions as explained below.

The majority of seniors section members handicaps are within 2 strokes of their WHS playing handicap. So for these members their seniors section handicap will become the same as their WHS playing handicap.

Where a seniors section members handicap is more than 2 strokes difference, we have looked at their WHS handicap.

For most, the reason for this discrepancy is their WHS handicap is out of date. (we determine out of date as; insufficient best 8 out of 20 rounds or having less than 8 qualifying rounds in the last year) In these cases the seniors members handicap will not change.

When a seniors member WHS handicap is up to date i.e. sufficient best 8 out of 20 rounds completed and 8 or more qualifying rounds in the last year. Then the seniors member handicap will change to their WHS playing handicap.

The following competitions shall use seniors section handicaps;

Peter Herrity
Gordon Wood
Mike Smith Summer Singles K/O
Andy Ward Pairs Winter K/O
Happy Mondays
Autumn, Winter and Summer Leagues

Annual Business Meeting, Prize Presentation and Lunch – Friday 20th October

Reporter: Dave Craggs

With the course being closed due to exceptional rainfall it was agreed we would meet up at the Clubhouse at 1.00 pm to get ready for our ABM.

Our Chairman, Mike Bennett opened proceedings with his address to the total of 43 attendees a copy of which is attached. In particular a vote of thanks and presentation was made to Rob Taylor who after 8 years of service has stepped down to enjoy a well deserved rest. Rob was one of the original members who set up the Seniors section which has gone from strength to strength.

Steve Gosling, Treasurer followed with his  presentation of the finances of the Section supported by the attached excellent supporting documents.

Presentation of prizes for the year were made to the worthy winners who were all in attendance. List of winners attached.

There then followed an excellent two course meal and plenty of banter. Thanks were previously made by Mike to Karen and her staff for all the support they give to us on match days and providing the ABM lunch.

Seniors who were not at the meeting, but would like to see the budget, bank statements and chairman’s report, please contact Dave Craggs, who will forward them to you.

Llangollen Senior Open – 6 June 2024

Reporter: Grahame Brickell

Dates for next year are shortly to be released for this popular venue / event  and as regular visitors of the event we have the opportunity to pre-book some tee times (late morning/ midday is being suggested) . 

There are already a dozen or so names attending so if you would like to be included please message me, Grahame Brickell, on IG messaging.

Happy Mondays – 23 October

A good turnout again. Here are the results (team Stableford):

Winners: Mike Bennet, Mark Pickles, Colin Crail, Richard Yates.-  28.75
> 2) Charlie H, Peter W, Tommy L, Steve B – 27.8
> 3) Charlie H, Paddy M, Ron T, Ken N, 27.75
> 4) Eric C, Phil P, John B, -25.3
> 5) Steve G, Pete B, Steve R – 25
> 6) Colin C, Sammy L, Les F – 24.6
> 7) Phil L, G Utton, David G, K Pearce – 21.75

Prostate Cancer Support Charity

Phil Ormesher made a thank you speech at the ABM thanking the Senior Section for moneys raised for his prostate cancer support charity.

Phil has asked me to attach the following note (in Microsoft Word) for those who were not there on Friday.

Annual Subscription now overdue

Steve Gosling informs me that, despite chasing members by email, only about 70 have yet paid. It is not fair on Steve that he has to spend his time chasing up the money.

If you have not yet paid, please send £20 to the Senior’s bank account as soon as possible. If you would like to resign from the Senior Section, please inform Steve.

Lymm Golf Over 60’s
Nat West Bank
60-20-29
50244779

Newsletter Editor: Mark Pickles

If you have not already done say, please pay your annual subs to the Senior’s bank account. Steve Gosling informs me that 36 have paid so far, which is only about a third of the membership. The subs remain this year at £20. If you no longer wish to be in the senior section, please inform Steve.

Also, if you are coming for lunch as the annual business meeting/presentation, please pay £15. Steve says the following names are on the list, but they have not paid.

Please confirm that you are attending by paying immediately in order that we can firm up the catering order. If you have changed your mind, please email Dave Craggs to inform him.

The correct bank account to use for the subs and the meal is:

Lymm Golf Over 60’s
Nat West Bank
60-20-29
50244779

Andy Ward Pairs Trophy

If you would like to be drawn into this year’s doubles knockout, please add your name to the list on the Senior’s noticeboard as soon as possible.

We have extended the deadline until Friday morning, 20th October. The draw will be made at lunchtime on Friday.

HANDICAPS  – Update from the Chairman 

Reporter: Mike Bennett

Further to last week’s newsletter regarding handicaps I can confirm that when the committee met on Friday the 5th of October we discussed at length  the various handicap proposals.

However NO vote was taken.

The reason for this is that at the forthcoming AGM on the 20th October we will hopefully have two new committee members. 

It was felt that we should give  the opportunity to these 2 committee members to express their views and take part in the vote.

We have therefore arranged a meeting on the Monday after the AGM namely the 23rd of October to finalise the handicap system.

Any member who would like to put forward a suggestion on the handicap system, please contact a committee member who will take it forward to the meeting on the 23rd of October

Please note Handicaps are not on the agenda for the AGM. 

The new handicap system and your new handicaps will be announced in our newsletter on Wednesday the 25th of October.

A copy of these will also be put up on the senior notice board.

The new handicaps will be applicable from Friday the 27th of October which will be round 1 of the Autumn 5 from 8 competition. 

Happy Mondays

Reporter: Peter Willson

Todays Happy Monday’s was a Yellow Ball 

1st – 109 points – Steve Barlow, Ron Thornton and Peter Willson
2nd – 100 points – Charlie Heath, Mark Pickles and Steve Gosling 
3rd – 93 points – Mike Bennett, Richard Yates, Les Williams and Colin Crail
4th  – 84 points – John Both, Coin Chisnall and Alan Thomas
5th – 79 points – Tony Lambert, Paul Wright and Phil Perry
6th – 76 points – Pete Broady, Dave Waggitt, Charlie Hill and Phil Lomas 
7th – 67 points – Eric Cox, Graham Utton and Ken Pearce

Dry, no wind, milky sun, damp underfoot, frost to start 2 deg C rising to 15 deg C.

Tee booking schedule for tomorrow (Thursday 18th October) 

This is the tee booking schedule for play on 3rd November: Round 2 of best 5 from 8

If your name is in the left column, please book for your group. 

Please consult the Seniors’ noticeboard the next time you’re at the golf club, and confirm your availability for the Andy Ward Pairs Trophy and for the Presentation Lunch/Annual Business Meeting (described in last week’s newsletter), planned for Friday 20th October.

If you are attending the lunch, please pay £15 into our main senior’s bank account. The committee encourages you all to attend. This is the correct bank account:

Lymm Golf Over 60’s
Nat West Bank
60-20-29
50244779

At the annual meeting, we will also go through the new plans for updating senior handicaps, which will be run by Paul Foster, whom the committee has co-opted to the role in charge of handicaps.

Paul has proposed three possible systems. The committee agrees unanimously on Paul’s simplest system, which will not be WHS. For those who say WHS is the simplest, it would not work well for the senior section, for many reasons, not least as we go into the Autumn season (best 5 from 8) then Winter season (best 5 from 10), in which no-one’s WHS handicap is adjusted. Furthermore, many of our senior section are 5-day members, some of whom have a poorly maintained WHS handicap. Therefore, the handicap you start with in the new system will your WHS handicap if it is well-maintained, or a calculation based on this year’s senior 15-hole competitions if your WHS is poorly maintained.

Andy Ward Pairs Trophy

If you would like to be drawn into this year’s doubles knockout, please add your name to the list on the Senior’s noticeboard before Friday 13th October (if possible). The draw will be made the following week.

The format is, we draw playing partners, a player in Division 1 with a player in Division 2. It is then a straightforward knockout, with deadlines set for each stage of the knockout. We have found that in previous years it is not possible to be flexible with the knockout stage dates, therefore please give yourself plenty of time to play your match, allowing for possible postponements due to weather. If a match cannot be played before the deadline, you can agree to use the toss of a coin to decide which pair goes through to the next stage.

Annual senior subs due

Our annual subscription is due. It remains at £20 this year. If there is a credit or a deficit against your name, Steve Gosling will inform you and ask you to make an adjustment to your subs.

Please pay £20 into our main seniors’ bank account (not the friendly league account).

These are the details.

Lymm Golf Over 60’s
Nat West Bank
60-20-29
50244779

Autumn League

The committee has decided to delay the start of the the Autumn League until Friday 27th August, to give Paul Foster and the committee enough time to firm up the correct handicaps going forward. Therefore the Autumn format will be best 5 from 8 (rather than from 10).

Seniors’ Turkey Trot – 6th October 2023

35 seniors entered the Turkey Trot to play in fine weather with a gentle breeze.

The winners are:

Division 1:
Charlie Heath: 32 points.
Division 2:
Art Laird 29 points.

Charlie and Art will receive a £30 voucher, presented at our annual lunch.

Happy Mondays

A good turnout this Monday, for the popular format of Shambles 

7 teams – 22 players

Winners – 56 points – Tommy Lawless, Phil Perry and Peter Willson
2nd – 54 points – Steve Gosling, Phil Lomas and Charlie Heath
Joint 3rd – 52 points – Mike Bennett, Richard Yates, Colin Crail and Les Williams 
Joint 3rd  – 52 points -Graham Utton, Dave Waggitt and Les Fecitt
5th – 47 points – Paul Foster, Tony Lambert and Eric Cox
6th – 44 points – Steve Barlow, Ron Thornton and Ken Pearce
7th – 43 points – Colin Chisnall, Alan Thomas and John Booth 

Tee booking schedule for tomorrow (Thursday 12th October) 

This is the tee booking schedule for play on 27 October: Round 1 of best 5 from 8

If your name is in the left column, please book for your group. 

Inter-club friendly v Northenden at Home, Friday 22 September

Match Reporter: Bob Mycock, CoD

Once again our Seniors Team assembled for our penultimate Match of the season to take on Northenden.

Following a few days of torrential rain, it was a relief all 18 Holes were open and playable, huge credit to the greenstaff.

Captained for second time this season by the inimitable Bobby Mycock the instruction was to avoid defeat at all costs, no prisoners taken.

However, with all the Teams bar one in the Clubhouse we were 4-3 down, only Paddy Moran and Phil Ormesher to come in and save the day. They did not let us down, with Paddy sinking a 20 foot putt to Win their game and an honourable 4-4 draw.

The Match was played in a great spirit and followed by a lovely meal and a few friendly drinks, and of course some light entertainment in the form of another side splitting joke, courtesy of your CoD.

It was also my pleasure to Present, Alan Ranscombe with a Club Jumper and acknowledge this true gentleman’s 80th Birthday

And finally, we gather once again this Friday for our last match against our local rivals Warrington, it would be great to finish with a resounding Win and reward John Armstrong for all of his commitment, effort, and organising this Year, a big thank you from all of us

 Audaces Fortuna Iuvat ………

Bottle of wine comp, 22 September

The recent bad weather, and the rain and wind on the day resulted in an unusually small number of cards submitted: only 9.

Winner was Sammy Lee with 28 points (CPO over Grahame Brickell who also had 28 points).

Handicaps

The “handicap subcommittee” seems to have become a neglected child. However, the good news is a Foster parent has put himself forward, brimming with ideas and enthusiasm, and past experience, not least ideas for better communication. Watch this space! Let us hope that we have general agreement across the committee and the senior section has we go into the Autumn league.

Tee booking schedule for tomorrow (Thursday 27th September) 

This is the tee booking schedule for play on 13 October: Round 1 (of 10) of our Autumn League.

If your name is in the left column, please book for your group. 

My apologies for forgetting to include the results of the Senior Championship in last week’s newsletter. (I did add them a couple of hours after I first published the newsletter, when it was pointed out to me that they were missing.)

Our Champion this year is Martin Franks. Congratulations, Martin!

Senior Championship – 8 September 2023

Winner: Martin Franks – 35 points  (CPO over last 6 holes -16 points)

Second:  Paul Foster – 35 points  (CPO over last 6 holes -14 points)

Third: Steve Gosling – 35 points (CPO over last 6 holes -11 points)

Tatton League – 2023

Reporter: Tatton League Captain, Bob Mycock

Round 6 and Final Round at Antrobus

Our Team of 4 pairs assembled at Antrobus for the Final Round of the Tatton Trophy. On a Glorious Sunny Day all 4 of our Teams performed with a determination and vigour for Lymm GC to Win the Day, on Antrobus’ own patch. A remarkable effort, not least because Antrobus are the overall Tatton League winners for 2023.

Paddy Moran and Martin France had the Highest Pairs Score of the Day with 44 points and that Old Dog and Stalwart Mike Pigott picked Nearest The Pin (3 inches from the Hole).

Our other pairs’ scores were:
Mike Pigott & Sam Leach – 40 pts
Bob Mycock & Andy Timms – 36 pts
Richard Cooper & Graham Brickell – 36 pts

Round 6 Scores

Lymm – 156
Antrobus – 151
Heyrose – 147
Styal – 145
High Legh – 144
Birchwood – 139   

Tatton Trophy Final Standings

Antrobus – 883 (Winners)
Heyrose – 877
Lymm – 864
Birchwood – 850
High Legh – 838
Styal – 827

In Summary, another really good effort from everyone who has taken part this year and we are certainly getting closer to hopefully getting our hands on the Trophy in the near future.

I would like to everyone who has been involved and especially the support from you all, it has been a pleasure to Captain the Team, especially the banter and fun, the most important element of golf for me.

We re-assemble next April for 2024 Tatton…

Friendly match at Home versus Leigh

Match Reporter: Mervyn Roberts (CoD)

Despite negative weather forecasts during the week leading up to the match we were eventually able to entertain our visitors Leigh GC under blue skies and with the sun on our backs. The course and greens were in excellent condition leading into our Finals weekend and a closely fought and enjoyable match ensued.

Of the 8 matches played 5 went to the 18^th hole with 2 one hole defeats, a win for Sammy and Pete and 2 halved matches, including a fightback from 3 down with 5 to play by Mervyn and Phil O. Phil Lomas and Jeff Chapman were in inspired form and ran out 6 and 5 winners but unfortunately the other 2 matches ended in defeat such that the overall result was yet another defeat for Lymm Seniors by 5 games to 3.

A special mention must be made for the excellent lunch served up by Karen and her team. The chicken curry and chocolate dessert drew many words of praise including players from Leigh who rated the lunch as very much the best they have had over all the 28 matches they have played this season.

Results:

Steve Gosling / Mike Pigott: Halved
John White / Paddy Moran: Lost 1 down
Alan Ranscombe / Colin Crail: Lost 4 and 3
Phil Ormisher / Mervyn Roberts: Halved
Graham Brickell / Ron Thornton: Lost 1 down
Sammy Lee / Peter Broady: Won 1 up
Jeff Chapman / Phil Lomas: Won 6 and 5
Arthur Laird / Peter Willson: Lost 3 and 2

Bottle of Wine Competition – 15 September

Competition running alongside the Leigh match:

Number of Entries – 19 

Number of wrong handicaps = 4  (21%) – please check your handicaps !!

First – Ken Narraway – 34 points 
2nd – Andrew Cox – 33 points – CPO over last 6 holes – 14 points 
3rd – John Armstrong – 33 points -CPO last 6 – 11 points

Well done, Ken!

Tee booking schedule for tomorrow (Thursday 21st September) 

This is the tee booking schedule for play on 6 October: our annual Turkey Trot.

If your name is in the left column, please book for your group.